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In the name of “Evolution”

Tim Laurisden, it is not just about “look and feel different”. It is about my mail client being unusable for quite sometime after an update. Many buttons went missing from the toolbar. My folders were rearranged. This isn’t something that is expected to happen with an update.

It is not upstream responsibility that Fedora picked up a beta release and pushed an update that caused this frustration. Xorg zapping was disabled in a new release with proper release notes. Behavior changes like that in a new release is ok. An update causing this is unacceptable. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Btw, Evolution is something that happens gradually over a longer period of time. Disruption is not Evolution.


Written by mether

October 12, 2009 at 2:37 pm

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  1. That is what Fedora does. RHEL will ship Thunderbird 3 so it has to beta tested thoroughly. That is what Fedora is for.

    There is no point in thinking something else. Fedora is a testbed for RHEL. Nothing more, nothing less.


    October 12, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    • What Fedora tests benefits the entire Free software world and not just RHEL but my point is a bit different. That testing can happen in the development branch and via automated tests in a far more effective way. The current methodology doesn’t achieve even the goal you are citing.


      October 12, 2009 at 4:12 pm

  2. sorry, i’m with Tim…. Fedora is a testbed OS. If you want a very stable release cycle, then RHEL/CentOS may be more appropriate to your needs.

    Fedora aims to use the bleeding edge desktop software. In Fedora 11, this meant Thunderbird 3 (which isn’t really quite baked yet). As new betas are released, F11 is updating… there’s no other direction for it to go….

    The argument could be made that Thunderbird 3 wasn’t ready for F11… but you may have a large number of dissenters who want the latest and greatest, even if it is in beta.


    October 12, 2009 at 7:39 pm

  3. In conflict with Fedora’s stated goals, however, it is arguable that Thunderbird 3 is not, by definition, “the latest and greatest in open source software”.

    By simple matter that it’s still in development.

    Who’s running Thunderbird 3?

    Developers…and Fedora users.


    October 12, 2009 at 7:52 pm

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