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Fedora 9 Xfce Spin – Progress report

I have posted a short progress report on the changes in the upcoming Fedora 9 Xfce Spin. Check it out.

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Written by mether

March 3, 2008 at 11:46 pm

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  1. One more thing

    I obviously can’t add comments on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RahulSundaram/XfceLive, so I’ll write it here: there is one more distro where the XFCE logout dialog was hacked!

    Mandriva’s unofficial XFCE 2008 spin has 3 added buttons for Hibernate, Suspend and Switch user!

    I can’t tell about the regular XFCE packages in Mandriva 2008, but I suppose they’re hacked there too — so we could look into the sources for the relevant diffs.

    Thank you for your interest in an XFCE Fedora spin! Will it be official with F9?

    beranger_org

    March 5, 2008 at 9:48 am

    • Re: One more thing

      We are probably going to go with run-time detection and using gnome power manager and gnome screensaver for suspend/resume/switch user functionality and not merge the Xubuntu hack for reasons outlined in

      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433150#c2

      I don’t think we have looked at Mandriva patches yet to see if they are different. I have added a note in the bugzilla report to do that. Feel free to comment on them or file new reports for bugs/ requests for enhancements against the relevant packages in bugzilla.

      Xfce spin is already official for Fedora 8 so I expect that will continue for Fedora 9 too but that is still a rel eng/board decision.

      mether

      March 5, 2008 at 11:20 am

    • Re: One more thing

      That was for allowing the user to set multiple keyboards the GUI way; otherwise, the xfce4-xkb-plugin will only be able to switch between keyboards defined manually in xorg.conf. Alas, this is the current situation with XFCE! So investigating the status of the keyboard settings extra tab hack in Xubuntu 7.10 is worth a try!

      Tatil Yerleri

      vakfike5

      July 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    • Re: One more thing

      Interesting but it is getting difficult just to track down patches from other distributions to see what all they haven’t pushed upstream yet or rejected by upstream for various reasons.

      Balayı Otelleri

      joliejayson

      August 11, 2008 at 10:48 am

  2. Aaah, I forgot about it!

    There is one more issue nobody told you about, as it’s only in my What is XFCE still needing to become the #1 choice: Xubuntu 7.10 already has an extra tab in the Keyboard Settings dialog, that should allow users to overwrite the X configuration. Currently though, finished or not, unofficial or not, I don’t know why it’s there, because it doesn’t work. But it’s there!

    That was for allowing the user to set multiple keyboards the GUI way; otherwise, the xfce4-xkb-plugin will only be able to switch between keyboards defined manually in xorg.conf. Alas, this is the current situation with XFCE! So investigating the status of the keyboard settings extra tab hack in Xubuntu 7.10 is worth a try!

    Once we know that, I’d also consider some extra keyboard layout options as a dialog hack, to avoid manual additions of XkbOptions like “compose:rwin, grp:alt_shift_toggle, lv3:ralt_switch” in xorg.conf.

    beranger_org

    March 5, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    • Re: Aaah, I forgot about it!

      Ideally, you wouldn’t need to override the X configuration and it would figure out the right thing by default but pending that, I think this might be a good RFE against the xb plugin for upstream. Either file it in upstream bugzilla or Red Hat bugzilla and we can take it from there.

      mether

      March 6, 2008 at 12:01 pm

      • Re: Aaah, I forgot about it!

        Before considering the upstream, I’ll have to check out how they fixed it for Ubuntu 8,04 — they just said it’ll work in it! See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce-mcs-plugins/+bug/192337 (the comment by Lionel Le Folgoc).

        beranger_org

        March 6, 2008 at 12:23 pm

      • Re: Aaah, I forgot about it!

        Interesting but it is getting difficult just to track down patches from other distributions to see what all they haven’t pushed upstream yet or rejected by upstream for various reasons. One reason why I wrote down

        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream

        If you figure out how it all works, please file a patch against the appropriate package and CC me if you can.

        Btw, the Mandriva patches for suspend, hibernate etc seems to be based on the Xubuntu ones and have the same problem (ie) on some systems, the hardware will advertise that it can suspend well but won’t and you have to reboot your system just to get it back. Quirks support ensures that HAL and pm-utils is aware and workaround broken hardware in various ways.

        http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/quirk-suspend-index.html

        mether

        March 6, 2008 at 5:12 pm

  3. perfect

    I really love this open source software.. : )

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